About the show

Marriage. Parenthood. Relationships. Family. All parts of day-to-day life, all things easily failed. The hosts of Why Did We Ever Meet, Ashley & Wes Allen, know these things and are willing to share their failures with you.
Why Did We Ever Meet gives you a candid look into "The Allen Club", a family you may already be familiar with due to their involvement in independent film, podcasts, etc. Join them each week (with plenty of interruptions by kids & pets) to find out what blew up in the Allen House & laugh along with them...and at their expense!

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  • Arty Shepherd (Errortype:11, Instruction, Saint Vitus Bar)

    July 28th, 2021  |  1 hr 42 mins
    episode 79, family, why did we ever meet

    This falls under the "long time coming" category and it was worth the wait. Arty Shepherd is a name you've heard a million times on WDWEM and with good reason. His bands and songwriting have been a staple in post-hardcore, punk rock, alt rock, and hardcore.

  • Popeye Vogelsang (Farside, Your Favorite Trainwreck)

    July 21st, 2021  |  1 hr 41 mins
    allen club, episode 78, family, interview, popeye vogelsang, why did we ever meet

    What is it like to have made possibly the best album ever? Well, we ask our modest & wonderful guest about this because as a member of Farside, that distinction was thrust upon them & their incredible album "Rigged", whose influence is still being felt today.

  • Back To The Basics (Of Yelling At One Another)

    July 14th, 2021  |  1 hr 22 mins
    episode 77, family, why did we ever meet

    The Family is back on the mic, so you know what that means-lots of yelling at each other and shit talking! Oh, we also discuss the new Black Widow movie, play a round of "We Fuckin?", and Cash closes the show...with a song! YAY

  • Josh English (Six Going On Seven, Attempt Survivors)

    July 7th, 2021  |  1 hr 27 mins
    episode 76, family, why did we ever meet

    Coming back from a holiday weekend & we're slinging HEAT! Josh English is our guest this week. His band, Six Going On Seven, is a standout band of the late 90's-early 00's scene. With a sound that leaned more on the influence of power pop & strong "power trio" melodies, they distinguished themselves from many of their peers with timeless songs.

  • Norman Brannon (Texas Is The Reason, Shelter, New End Original)

    June 30th, 2021  |  2 hrs 25 secs
    episode 75, family, why did we ever meet
  • Steven Sanderson (Gameface, Errortype:11, Instruction)

    June 23rd, 2021  |  1 hr 15 mins
    episode 74, family, why did we ever meet

    Steven Sanderson (Gameface, Errortype:11, Instruction) is one of the best drummers to grace punk rock, post hardcore, and all points in between. As it turns out, he's also a lot of fun to talk to. You guys are going to dig this chat!

  • Rob Pennington (By The Grace Of God, Endpoint, Black Cross)

    June 16th, 2021  |  1 hr 29 mins
    episode 73, family, rob pennington, why did we ever meet

    Such an awesome guest this week! Rob Pennington is well known to so many punk rock and hardcore kids from the mid 90's to the early 00's. This is a wonderful conversation with an even more wonderful human being. You're all gonna love this one!

  • 15 Years And All I Got Was A Lousy Hike!

    June 9th, 2021  |  1 hr 57 secs
    15th anniversary, episode 72, family, why did we ever meet

    Mom & Dad celebrated 15 years of marriage last week. So, we share some of the things we've learned after being together for nearly 20 years. Life, relationships, having a family...this shit is hard. Do life with someone who makes you laugh.

  • Adam Marino (Saetia, Errortype:11, Instruction, God Fires Man, Attempt Survivors)

    June 2nd, 2021  |  1 hr 31 mins
    adam marino, attempt survivors, episode 71, errortype:11, family, god fires man, instruction, saetia, why did we ever meet

    This week's guest totes quite a resume of influential bands. As a member of Saetia & Errortype:11, you'd think that's enough to cement a legacy. Add Instruction & God Fires Man to the mix... you've got someone with stories to tell. Adam Marino had an incredible journey through music.

  • Leave Daniel Bryan Out Of This

    May 26th, 2021  |  1 hr 8 mins
    allen club, episode 70, family, why did we ever meet

    Absolute madness in the Allen house results in THIS EPISODE!!! From the start, we're off course and trying to save this plane from careening into the side of a mountain...do we pull it off? Guess you'll have to listen and find out.

  • Joseph Grillo (Garrison, Gay For Johnny Depp, Her Head's On Fire, The Judas Knife)

    May 19th, 2021  |  1 hr 27 mins
    episode 69, family, why did we ever meet

    This week's episode is a special one as it's someone from Wes's past! Joseph Grillo has been a fixture in post-hardcore/emo/punk rock for several years. His band Garrison left an indelible mark on the emo wave of the late 90's-early 00's through a series of incredible releases and their own distinct sound.

  • Always Tired

    May 12th, 2021  |  43 mins 25 secs
    episode 68, family, why did we ever meet

    No 2 ways about it. This weekend was doozy! What started out as a gas leak detected in front of the house ended in eating pizza 3 days in a row. That doesn't make sense in writing, but it will when you listen. Hope you're all hanging in there & loving yourselves!

  • A Worthy Struggle

    May 5th, 2021  |  1 hr 16 mins
    allen club, episode 67, family, why did we ever meet

    Mom & Dad are back in the saddle again. As life continues to whiz by, they try to make sense of it all. We talk about the toll the pandemic has taken on kids, fighting with mental health & how a cartoon helped Wes realize some things he needed to fix in his relationship with his family.

  • Marty DeRosa & Sarah Shockey (Marty & Sarah Love Wrestling Podcast)

    April 28th, 2021  |  1 hr 51 mins
    episode 66, family, marty and sarah, why did we ever meet

    HEEEEY BUDDIES!!!! We've got a WONDERFUL episode because we have WONDERFUL guests. This week, you get to sit in on our "catching up with friends" Zoom session where we're joined by Sarah Shockey & Marty DeRosa.

  • Jeff Caudill (Gameface, singer songwriter)

    April 21st, 2021  |  1 hr 34 mins
    episode 65, family, jeff caudill, why did we ever meet

    We've got another fun interview episode for you guys-and it's a solo Wes episode (sorry, to Ashley fans). This week, I am joined by Jeff Caudill. Many of you are familiar with him as the frontman of the massively influential band Gameface, but Jeff's musical career has been active well beyond them.

  • No Lashley For Ashley

    April 14th, 2021  |  1 hr 10 mins
    episode 64, family, why did we ever meet

    Mom & Dad are back to business this week! It's been a while since you've heard from just us, and let's be honest...we missed ya'!